Things Christians just shouldn’t say…ever

I’m in Santa Cruz this week hanging out with senior leaders from several Christian conference centers around the country. They’ve all been involved in Christian camping for a long time, and they’re full of fascinating stories. I may poach one or two on occasion because they’re just too fun to pass up.

Probably the best (i.e. most disturbing) little tidbit of information, though, has to do with a piece of evangelical-ese I’d never run across before. I’m sure we’re all familiar with the famous “campfire experience” that closes many summer youth camps. Everyone gathers around, commits or recommits their lives to Christ, cries, hugs everyone within reach, and leaves feeling invincible and ready to take the Gospel to all nations. A common element in the campfires that I’ve been a part of is burning something as a token of releasing to God your sins, your past, or anything else holding you back from him. We usually wrote these things down on little pieces of paper and then took turns throwing them into the fire to demonstrate that we were really serious about our new commitment.

So far, so good.

Apparently, though, it used to be very common for Christian campers to throw pieces of wood into the fire as the token of what they were letting go. And, it also used to be fairly common to call such pieces of wood “fagots.”  You can probably see where this is going now. So, the person leading the campfire experience would often exhort the group with things like “Come down and burn your fagot” or “Throw your fagot in the fire.” How’s that for a rallying cry? Try it at church this Sunday; see how it goes.

Now, I realize that “fagot” (small stick or bundle of sticks) is different than “faggot” (derogatory term for a homosexual). But, since I can’t hear the extra “g”, there’s just no way to avoid the shock value of having someone say “Come, burn your fagot for God!”

So, this is now officially going on my list of things that Christians just shouldn’t ever say.



12 Responses to “Things Christians just shouldn’t say…ever”

  1. Brian LePort September 30, 2010 at 8:50 am #

    Yeah, we should just settle with the word “sticks”.

  2. irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert September 30, 2010 at 9:12 am #

    Sorry sounds like Psychobabble to me! Real repentance or “metanoia” is a real spiritual transformation of the mind. And a work of God! Note St. Paul’s statement – 2 Cor. 7:10. We need to hear from the best of the English Puritan heritage again, note their aspect to the term “double or final justification”..(Richard Baxter).

  3. Heironymus Minoris September 30, 2010 at 10:40 am #

    This goes back to the horizons of the hermeneutics discussion in which we once dwelt. See Marc you are in Santa Cruz. It is important to construct the notion of the word in its contextual milieu. “Fagot” also can be semantically connote cigarette. But in Santa Cruz with the ‘high’ cost of cigarettes in the local context and census work discontinued, it may be symbolic for federal less expensive burnables bearing similar resemblance to cigarettes and that are more accessible to the natives in the Santa Cruz culture, particularly for medical purposes. Perhaps the term is a ‘common sense’ reduction using said burnables in an attempt to achieve transcendence.

    • irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert September 30, 2010 at 10:59 am #

      When I was a a young Irish lad, then Anglo-Irish, I used to smoke (too many years now). And yes, we called them, “fags”, i.e. the cigarette. The other started with a Q…sorry, just the way it was in them days.

      • Marc Cortez September 30, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

        A while back, I met a guy from Iceland who tells a great story about walking into a bar in New York (I think it was in the 80’s), and saying, “Do you have any fags here?” Fortunately, he said they didn’t beat him up right away, though it was close.

      • irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert September 30, 2010 at 3:17 pm #


        Since I was attached to some American Force Recon Marines, as a Royal Marine, I knew better. Thank goodness! lol

    • irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert September 30, 2010 at 11:56 am #

      BTW, I would perhaps place Origen, as the father of hermeneutics. (I know late on this..sorry)

  4. Heironymus Minoris September 30, 2010 at 10:48 am #

    ps I see I am in need of a syntactical editor.

  5. colin October 13, 2010 at 1:14 pm #

    Perhaps we should just start calling these sticks “Koran”

    • Marc Cortez October 13, 2010 at 7:18 pm #

      Great. Now I have a mental image of junior high students on the last night of camp throwing copies of the Koran into the fire. That’s just unpleasant.

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